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Sure but it’s only on point if you explain or describe how Biden will make it better, otherwise you’re just telling people what they already know (Trump sucks)
I truly don’t know enough either way so I certainly take your word if you’re tracking the issue more closely. But conceptually I can’t imagine Biden really changing much in terms of actual outcomes for folks.
I could just see Biden side-stepping and then the states do whatever they were going to do anyways. It’s not like Trump is rolling back trans protections in California (that I’m aware of). But again I’m not tracking very closely so apologies if that’s too simplistic of a view.
I don’t really have any reassuring words for you unfortunately.
Biden might be less likely to directly go after trans people and their rights, but he certainly won’t put any more effort than Trump into actively protecting them from other attackers either.
Do you think Biden will put me in a cage or a mass grave with all my trans and LGBT friends?
If his donors wanted that then they would back right wing candidates. There’s a lot of liberal support for LGBT people and if Biden is going to genocide them then he’s going to need a really good reason and he’s probably going to lose a lot of support and that could be the thing that pushes a third party to viability.
Well, Obama (With Biden as an accessory) did put immigrants and their kids in cages and camps, so it’s not like there’s zero precedent.
That’s happening under Trump too and the conditions are probably worst and more people have been targeted. Do you think more genocide is better than genocide?
No, but he’ll do that in the Middle East and probably in Venezuela, and the way things are heating up, maybe China.
That stuff will probably happen with either president. Those people have no control over our government while American LGBT comrades are at least on American soil and able to influence our politics in some way. Sacrificing us to save lives abroad which probably won’t be saved anyway is not going to save America from fascism.
I’m cis, want communism, and would still vote Biden in a swing state. (But instead live in a state where voting for President doesn’t matter, yippee American democracy.)
The Democrats might still lose, even if active leftists mobilize (the real vote turnout reserve is in the relatively checked out masses - they need a reason to pay attention to politics, we don’t). It might hurt the party enough to give the left more of an opening, but it might not. They have deep pockets and resources - ones they will (and do and did) deploy against the left first.
Biden winning will put the libs in the media to sleep, but it won’t kill the movements like Obama’s victory did, because the situation is worse and the young generations are wiser and more pissed off.
All I want is to not be put in a cage. I know many of our trans comrades suffer a lot and it’s hard to see a path where their suffering is improved by any candidate. But there’s one candidate who will be seeking to find scapegoats for the failure of American capitalism and how much you want to bet that we will be the target. There’s no way out of this country anymore with the pandemic, and like I said, I don’t want to end up in a cage. I understand why people don’t want to vote for Biden, neither do I, but the future with Trump getting a second term is too scary, I’m voting for Biden as well (and for every other democrat). Many of you can go back to your lives and hunker down until the fascist regime dies but us trans people have no where to hide.
It would be one thing if we actually stood a chance at Revolution but let’s face it, the only people picking up guns in sufficient numbers are the fascists and reactionaries. I know you guys like to shit on the libs but let’s be real, if we’re gonna get support from anyone then we’re going to have to have a lot of them on our side. Give them a reason to hate us more and you’ll further alienate us and push them towards the reactionaries. We need allies not enemies. I get that it’s fun to shit on them but to give them the finger and tell them to fuck off is not going to help our cause.
This could be a matter of life or death for some of us. Do not take this situation lightly.
Biden may be the best path to radicalization though. A lot of us are more aware of things than we were in 08 when Obama took power. If they can do watch the liberal establishment fail again it may radicalize more of them to be convinced that is not the path. There’s still too much faith in our government for anyone to be radicalized. There’s a lot more Bernie supporters who are voting for Biden than there are opposing the liberals.
No matter what we don’t have the numbers or the resources to stand up against the government at this time.
Well comrade cumwaffle (I love your name btw), you’re wrong that the US has a lot of influence on the EU. While this comment doesn’t apply to the Balkans or Eastern Europe, which are both very poor, rural, and reactionary; the USA have been losing their influence and leverage on the EU for like 4 years now, and I don’t think countries like Sweden, France or Ireland would criminalize trans folks just because it suddently becomes this way in the US. In short, advising your trans friends to leave the US for a more civilized place is a harsh course of action, but a necessary one.
Also, I must ask, even if Biden was elected, would things be different in the end ? The can would be kicked 4 years ahead, and the same issues would remain, and aggravate. Biden would do absolutely nothing to stop transphobic violence, as a comment pointed out, so you’d be on your own, even under a Democrat president sitting in office.
Don’t know about Sweden, but in Finland one of the requirements for legally changing your gender is being unable to reproduce, ie mandatory sterilisation, so us Europeans don’t need Trump to tell us to be shitty. Even then, I suppose somewhere like Finland would be a nicer place for a trans person to live on average than the US, at least if you live in one of the bigger cities
Finland is an odd place. Considered Nordic by everyone, but doesn’t share much of its progressivism, althought succdems there are trying to make 30h workweeks a reality; so we’ll see I guess.
We’ve got a lot of guns- in a 2017 survey, we ranked #10 by civilian-held firearms per 100 population. I believe we are also the most religious Nordic country and Finland also sadly ranks pretty high in domestic violence against women. So we are pretty chuddy in some ways, but the other Nordic countries are in others- it’s not all cuddles and rainbows
