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Nah, you’re not a lib, a lot of queer people feel like you do. I’ve hated this election cycle because there’s a lot of accelerationist glee that Trump might win again or Biden will lose and Civil War 2.0 blah blah. Honestly the left shouldn’t want anything like this because we aren’t poised to do well if things collapse, so we should probably root for something less shitty to happen right now.
But then again a lot of these accelerationists happen to be cishet white guys who have no real stakes who imagine themselves being rounded up by government thugs and carried away when the FBI doesn’t even know who the fuck they are from 50 other potato-shaped internet nerds. I can’t act too shocked about it.
The entire situation is pretty fucked and I don’t like it, but on the whole I’d like to not collapse into chaos where I’m hunted for sport so fuck the collapse noise.
I mean like the last time Biden was in the White House the US was literally making the Genocide of Yemeni Houthis possible.
Like…
Biden might not be the end of your world, but he will be the end of the world for many, many people. it might be worse than Obama because they’ll need to show “Strength” and “Bolster their presence on the world stage” and “Reclaim America’s image” and shit, aka crush dissent and violently re-assert imperial hegemony.
He’s topped Obama’s drone numbers and exacerbated existing conflicts so I don’t know about that.
To be fair from a minority perspective, it’s a weird debate. Trump has actually repeatedly proposed budget cuts to the police. While Biden has not only previously increased funding but plans to increase current budget. 1994 crime bill, anyone? This is very similar to the bill he fathered, wherein “reform” was promised in the form of higher quality policing and more rehabilitative services. This was agreed upon by black leaders as a good bill, until said rehabilitative services were taken out. For AA communities it seems to be history rhyming.
Personally, I don’t think not being a segregationist is a high hurtle to jump.
The thing is that Biden means death to god knows how many people in the middle East, as does Trump.
Biden picked a lady as vp that locked away young men for decades for selling weed.
Biden hasn’t made any concrete promises to exploited workers in America.
Biden supports more fracking.
Do you really want to support that?
I absolutely believe that 2nd term Trump will throw the law and constitution out the window, because he already has.
I mean make no mistake Trump has been hideously ineffectual at a lot of his pointlessly cruel policies, which is good, but he’s gotten off a few good victories and they’ve been fairly painful. Again, insulated champagne socialist motherfuckers.
The worst one was the supreme Court fiasco IMO, followed by the PPE racketeering scheme.
The hope with Biden losing is that the dems, while still rejecting anything genuinely leftist, will realize that they need to embrace a modicum of social democracy to maintain their incomes.
If they lose they will never do this.
The hope with Biden losing is that the dems, while still rejecting anything genuinely leftist, will realize that they need to embrace a modicum of social democracy to maintain their incomes.
This is what the left says after they lose in the primaries every single election. It doesn’t work.
idk, there was a saying among a leftist revolutionary (cant remember which one, but it succeeded), but he said it was common for there to be defeatism on the left and that no time was ever the right time for revolution. it was often said even while the revolution was taking place.
I don’t really have any reassuring words for you unfortunately.
Biden might be less likely to directly go after trans people and their rights, but he certainly won’t put any more effort than Trump into actively protecting them from other attackers either.
Do you think Biden will put me in a cage or a mass grave with all my trans and LGBT friends?
If his donors wanted that then they would back right wing candidates. There’s a lot of liberal support for LGBT people and if Biden is going to genocide them then he’s going to need a really good reason and he’s probably going to lose a lot of support and that could be the thing that pushes a third party to viability.
Well, Obama (With Biden as an accessory) did put immigrants and their kids in cages and camps, so it’s not like there’s zero precedent.
That’s happening under Trump too and the conditions are probably worst and more people have been targeted. Do you think more genocide is better than genocide?
No, but he’ll do that in the Middle East and probably in Venezuela, and the way things are heating up, maybe China.
That stuff will probably happen with either president. Those people have no control over our government while American LGBT comrades are at least on American soil and able to influence our politics in some way. Sacrificing us to save lives abroad which probably won’t be saved anyway is not going to save America from fascism.
I mean who am I supposed to prioritize? Trans people in the US? Innocent children in Venezuela and Iran? I’m the safest demo of them all, cishet white men but I’m a Communist whose name would be found if they raided “far left radical” groups. If they open death camps I’m definitely going to be in one too lol. That’s honestly not likely though. The Bourgeoisie isn’t ready for that. They are however ready to mass murder people in Venezuela or Syria or Iran and even China. It’s not exactly a choice in ready to make. And for people to suggest that’s because of my cishet privilege when I’m literally part of domestic scapegoat group number one right now is kinda ridiculous. They hate trans people but they literally believe “antifa” is an existential threat. I still don’t think they’re going to round me up, but I do think they will kill people abroad. And Biden is objectively worse for people abroad.
And Biden is objectively worse for people abroad.
I’d be curious to hear your breakdown as to why this is. With regards to North Korea, as well as fumbling in Venezuela and not invading Iran (when there were ghouls like bolton and pompeo in his administration), he’s been better in terms of outcomes in comparison to other Republican administrations. However, there’s also the giant increase in drone strikes, the escalation with Iran in the first place (a dem probably would have stuck with the Iran deal), and shitty smaller things like declaring Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel.
I guess I can see where you’re coming from. Trump just does whatever he thinks will make him look good, whereas often times, a long costly war has harmed presidential legacies in the eyes of the public. Plus, Biden has attacked Trump from the right on foreign policy, and has people like Colin Powell speaking at his convention.
But like unless we have reason to believe Biden is definitely going to invade more countries (he very well might), it’s hard for me to see him as objectively worse for people abroad.
I agree that that was terrible. If you think that sufficiently makes Biden objectively worse than Trump for people abroad, could you please elaborate as to why?
I mean it’s hard to figure out exactly how to weigh a senile guy cheerleading a war a decade and a half ago that ended up killing over a million people against another senile guy who with basically unilateral control over the US foreign policy has done a lot of imperialism, but was not as bad as he could have been.
Well comrade cumwaffle (I love your name btw), you’re wrong that the US has a lot of influence on the EU. While this comment doesn’t apply to the Balkans or Eastern Europe, which are both very poor, rural, and reactionary; the USA have been losing their influence and leverage on the EU for like 4 years now, and I don’t think countries like Sweden, France or Ireland would criminalize trans folks just because it suddently becomes this way in the US. In short, advising your trans friends to leave the US for a more civilized place is a harsh course of action, but a necessary one.
Also, I must ask, even if Biden was elected, would things be different in the end ? The can would be kicked 4 years ahead, and the same issues would remain, and aggravate. Biden would do absolutely nothing to stop transphobic violence, as a comment pointed out, so you’d be on your own, even under a Democrat president sitting in office.
Don’t know about Sweden, but in Finland one of the requirements for legally changing your gender is being unable to reproduce, ie mandatory sterilisation, so us Europeans don’t need Trump to tell us to be shitty. Even then, I suppose somewhere like Finland would be a nicer place for a trans person to live on average than the US, at least if you live in one of the bigger cities
Finland is an odd place. Considered Nordic by everyone, but doesn’t share much of its progressivism, althought succdems there are trying to make 30h workweeks a reality; so we’ll see I guess.
We’ve got a lot of guns- in a 2017 survey, we ranked #10 by civilian-held firearms per 100 population. I believe we are also the most religious Nordic country and Finland also sadly ranks pretty high in domestic violence against women. So we are pretty chuddy in some ways, but the other Nordic countries are in others- it’s not all cuddles and rainbows
Trans people have a rich history of persevering even in times of extreme adversity and we will persevere through this too. I encourage all of our trans and non-binary comrades to arm themselves if they can afford to and feel comfortable doing so. State-by-state guide on gun laws here. Guns are good, folks. :)
