I picked the one engineering discipline most useful to society and not dedicated to the sole purpose of treat making……
I WAS TOLD I’D BE A FUCKING BEAVER BUILDING DAMS BUT I’M MORE LIKE A FUCKING BUREAUCRAT EDITING WORD DOCUMENTS FOR TYPOS WHAT THE FUCK
EVERYWHERE I GO, ITS A BULLSHIT JOB. ENGINEERING IS THE MOST USELESS LIB INCREMENTALIST BULLSHIT OUT THERE.
KILL EVERYONE WHO SAYS ‘YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN USEFUL DEGREE IF U WANTED MEANINGFUL WORK AND HIGH PAY.’
PROGRAMMING GATCHA GAMES IS NOT USEFUL U FUCKING NERD
The most essential engineering discipline is also consistently the lowest paid engineering discipline.
HUH HOW ABOUT THAT. STUDY STEM™
oh i’ve done that for a living a while back, its actually a lot of work both in the field and in the office. it was pretty fun because we got to go to different parts of the city every day and measure shit then use cad software to draft it. only issue was of course i was not getting paid the full amount because i didn’t have the degree necessary to practice it so i eventually gave up on it. not a bs job though at least
I’ve still yet to hear about a job that isn’t either soul sucking, useless, or shit paying and shit working conditions
Being the idle son or daughter of the wealthy seems to be a pretty sweet gig, but I haven’t been able to figure out where to apply for it.
well you could marry into it but typically rich people only actually marry other rich people
even if you did marry in, you’d never be accepted as one of them, you’d be an eternal outsider
Bruh they usually haaaate themselves. Like the people in the front of the train on snowpiercer. Take away their treats and they go feral and self destruct. They are hollow shells of people.
I think the only people who are really doing it are people in co ops. Even then im not too sure though
Leave it to capitalism to turn arguably the most important role in a modern society’s infrastructure into something useless.
Holy shit I feel that though. I gave up on a computer science degree twice, and finally put it behind me the second time after realizing I can’t think of a tech job (that I could get anywhere near) which even serves a purpose beyond “process data in an office to help another office process their own data, etc etc etc.” Any job opportunity I saw was about 3 steps removed from having any coherent purpose you could explain to the average person. It’s endlessly fucking frustrating that thousands of young people, in search of a meaningful life, are tricked into wasting their talents on serving that worthless industry instead of using them for something worthwhile.
Now I’ve switched to an applied arts program where I do alternating terms at uni and a craft college. I know exactly what the typical reaction to that is, but I’m not falling for that guilt-tripping bait just to waste years working towards abstract fucking IT field “accomplishments” that no one will ever benefit from. That illusion of success only works if you still believe the fullness of your life should be measured by how much value you’ve produced, not to mention in a closed corporate system which ironically loses any real-world significance the moment you step outside of it. I do think hard work is often necessary to truly succeed in life, but the kind of work that must be done to save this society won’t be found there. I’ll probably have to find it myself, learning from others along the way.
IDK what I’l end up doing in the long run. Who knows. But the least I can do is tell the world some stories to help others make sense of life, or find a way to turn my beliefs into politically-charged art as unapologetically as possible (ideally through graphic novels or 2D animation). Even though the platform for an aspiring radical artist is pretty much guaranteed to be smaller than I’d hope, I want to give it everything I have and reach as many people as possible.
I find comfort in knowing that if change is really coming, then someday it won’t be this hard.
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Any job opportunity I saw was about 3 steps removed from having any coherent purpose you could explain to the average person.
This hits hard. I’m an accountant though and work in systems and project management. Equally unintelligible work to explain to the average person.
It would help if the projects being managed under capitalism actually meant something. I feel like the ideal takeaway from this thread is that many of these jobs could be useful or at least satisfying, but never will be until the current system is gone and dealt with. Accounting is a great example imo.
Right. Making sure data is correct and can be used for decision making is as needed for a large company as it is for a planned economy. The type of work I’ve done in my career has been more nakedly in service of the owners than anything else. At my current company “shareholder value” is part of the credo
Yet, when you meet someone for the first time what’s the first question they ask after learning your name?“and what do you do?” every single time, and nobody can explain their jobs to anyone else because they’re all bullshit so I just say something to move the conversation along
The whole purpose of that question is, “where in the class hierarchy in my head should I place you?”
I worked in e-commerce consulting for a while and it was draining my soul through my nostrils so I left to work at various startups making different kinds of treats. It might be equally meaningless in the long run but writing the firmware for a weed vape is a lot more satisfying than writing customer retention data crunching blah blah blah
Huh, I’m in the beginning stages of a job search and I had honestly more or less entirely written off startups. You’ve made me reconsider slightly. I’m just worried about stability, you know?
All my engineer friends hated their jobs. They where all people that built cars and thought they would be building things. Instead they where doing math or checking math.
Most have quit and gonr back to trade like jobs where they actually build shit.
Lots of them it wasn’t even math it was watching over the ai making sure it’s doing the math right.
Also that’s not how people where sold on engineering as a career 20 years ago. It was sold as this much more glorious job.
They thought it would be more rewarding and well paying along with easier on their body. Many of my then realized they like the physical aspect much more than the design desk work.
I thought it was the degree that makes money for people who like science, which is mostly accurate. I now realize it’s just a series of hurdles and challenges which protect the class system and at the end you get a largely meaningless piece of paper that entitles you to not have to sweat as much earning money.
Lmao yeah
ChemE, working in construction, and like, even though my work results in actual stuff getting built, it feels like its 90% paperwork. Invoices, purchase orders, payroll, quibling over contracts and payment, trying not to sign anything describing scope outside of how I priced the scope, etc, etc, etc
Real struggle not feeling like even ‘’‘‘real’’‘’ trades aren’t mostly capitalist filler most days
did recently catch a bullshit building owner pushing us to break building codes and accept switchgear that’d be a bomb though, so that’s cool. Like, it’d legally be bad for us if it did kill someone, so even CHUD’s should have been motivated to say ‘fuck no’, but it’s still nice to be able to say ‘WTF, no; we need to delay this job and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars getting better gear so we’re not accessories to fucking murder’. Fun part is is saying that should be the actual EE’s job, but they signed off on it (like morons), so I got to be the one to say it, which like, getting to flip out on people when you’re legally and morally justified in doing so is a pretty good high
