NGL, I’m annoyed by the nihilistic “I’m so deep” Grimderp slop that often passes for Dark Fantasy (albeit ASoIaF is more nuanced than that).

Of course, this nerd takes the kneejerk approach lol

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I read a teen dark fantasy book recently that’s very edgy, which is probably a good influence for kids. The Silent Gods series by Justin Call captures a feeling of discovering adults are fallible, being lied to and not considered by people who are meant to protect you, and that you can love people and long for acceptance and they’ll still reject you for how you were born. there’s lot of prophecy and killing and torture too, but that previously mentioned misanthropy feels like what makes it well conceived and meaningfully nihilistic. I feel like it might’ve gone too far rehabilitating the bully character though.

Maybe Malazan Book of the Fallen is more an example pretentious dark fantasy… I would say If I could keep track of what the hell the narrative in Gardens of the Moon is.

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In my experience it’s overwhelmingly just regressive fanfic from guys who got carpal tunnel playing too much black ops.

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Oh, the enjoyer of literature that led to 3 fascist movements hasn’t read socialist text?

Shocked, I say.

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Tolkien led to 3 fascist movements?

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www.atlasobscura.com/articles/hobbit-camps-fascism-italy.amp

Happened in the 70’s and again in the 80’s.

And then there’s whatever the hell this “cottage core” thing is the honkies are doing.

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There’s a reason they call him Vladimir Iliad Lenin

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I really like this piece by Simone Weil on The Iliad. It discusses the dehumanizing nature of force and how the Iliad is fairly alone in the western canon in how it treats the reality of war and violence very simply and evenly, revealing the depth of its horror.

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saying this like the first chapter of the iliad isn’t about achilles & agamemnon fighting over which trojan women to keep as slaves.

before you call me a treat defender i don’t necessarily approve of grr martin, i haven’t read his books—but the iliad is not an appropriate riposte. ancient greeks were extremely gung-ho about patriarchal violence and any text which treats women as people is on better moral footing than the iliad

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This is up there with “My grandma was illiterate and she was the most anticommunist person I ever knew”

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