cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2423375

Why is there so much communist propaganda on lemmy?

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I’d definitely describe myself as a communist, but I do realize we never had a proper communist state on this planet, just authoritarian states that acted like communists to win over the workers. Capitalism needs to be regulated as fuck to create a fair society, so for now, I strive for socialism, because I understand going straight to communism probably won’t work.

Sorry if this was uncalled for, I just wanted to show there are sensible communists who don’t excuse Russia and China for the shit they’re pulling. But neither do I excuse the west for a lot of shit we are pulling.

Chauvanists like this will spell out China’s economic system and reasoning for taking the path they took, and then immediately denounce them for doing exactly what they claim to want. And while they might claim to criticize their own government, they will then turn around and feed you lines that come straight from the state department

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Capitalism needs to be regulated as fuck to create a fair society, so for now, I strive for socialism, because I understand going straight to communism probably won’t work.

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It might be because that person has no idea what words mean

They think that socialism = communism and social democracy = socialism

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Also, there’s a reason it’s called critical support. Libs reserve nuanced, overall support but granular criticism for countries in the West, but outside of it? Oh no, then it’s a binary, you have to think they’re either evil or do nothing wrong, no in between.

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people like this want to be aristocrats living in their manicured parks so they never have to see people toil. that’s what socialism means to them.

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First paragraph, what they’re talking about is that they want a society where they get healthcare and education, but they don’t mind too much if cops are still murdering Black people, there are some homeless people, and queer people are forced to fight for their rights regularly. Sorry, what can you do? The world isn’t perfect!

The second paragraph is them seething about the world not being perfect in the way they specifically wish.

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You have to understand: China is not white, so it is doing it wrong.

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That first quote is incredible

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Leaves platform enshittified by capitalism

Complains about people being communists

Bruh

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>go to site made by communists
>look inside
>communists

how could the woke mob do this

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More than that.

leave site because it was ruined by capitalists

find new site that’s similar but made and maintained by communists to avoid the exact scenario you have a problem with

“We gotta get rid of these communists and make this place more like the place we just abandoned for being terrible.”

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Real communism is market ownership by the people, and not some elite cabal of politicians or capitalists. And a top-down planned economy is pretty much anti-communism, as it violates the very fundamentals of communism as being worker-driven.

Ah yes, I learn new things everyday

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stop talking about market, talk about production

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That kind of person can not fathom collective ownership.

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communism seen through the lense of thatcher-no-such-thing-as-society… they should find a use for their brain cos it’s not doing anything in their skull

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These countries were previously communist and (of that has that) have pretty much only improved since transitioning to democracy with capitalist economic systems:

[list of countries that are much worse off since the end of the Soviet Union]

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