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”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

Nice try Pulter, the walls are closing in and ur desperate. The RuZZan army will collapse as we send a battalion of 70 year old conscripts we kidnapped from a retirement village to capture Moscow. We have enough adult diapers to last them weeks.

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Has the victorious army ever just given up and returned to its land without any wins or concessions? Has this ever happened in history? Amazing that libs want Putin to just forfeit when he’s one move away from checkmate, like why would he do that?

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Has the victorious army ever just given up and returned to its land without any wins or concessions?

Yes, and actually even worse, they allied with the enemy they nearly completely defeated, and it was unfortunately Russian army, in 1762. In retrospect, that move by Peter III was one of the worst moronic mistakes in history of Europe which consequences are still being felt. Hope Russia remembers that.

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I have a general policy of predicting the opposite of what I want since I think the universe functions contrary to my own predictions specifically cuz I’m the main character.

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Ukraine will never ever ever ever accept the peace deal, nope, will never happen, we will also never solve climate change ever, ever, ever, Palestine will never be free either ever, never, nope, everything is completely hopeless and we will never achieve communism

I hope this works

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my vibes-based reading:

  • this is in response to the peace conference (the one russia isn’t invited to lol), not any major shifts on the battlefield or in the geopolitical situation

  • the target audience is the ukrainian public, not the ukrainian/western leadership

  • the russian government knows there’s no chance ukraine is willing (or able) to accept this ceasefire proposal. that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not prepared to follow through should ukraine agree, but the extremely generous terms they’re presenting here are probably based on the assumption that ukraine will immediately reject it.

  • when ukraine is eventually forced to the negotiation table, the russian proposal will be far less generous.

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People when the literal last Ukrainian is hiding in a shelter dressed in army gear with boots kicking down the door: Nooooo, we have them on the ropes!

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