Oh…right…Election is coming up.
Dems got mad about Qanon being so successful, so they’re trying to push their own, much lamer conspiracy theory.
Edit: And wow, mentioning Trump is drawing in libs like moths to a flame. A shame none of them seem to be able to actually read any of the other words we say.
Oh…right…Election is coming up.
In 15 months… The Yankee election cycle is some 500 times the size of the actual election date.
Is this shitposting? It’s accurate, but I dunno if it’s dank.
Point to any comment where we defend Trump. You have 6 hours to do it before you get banned.
edit: time’s up. guess what happened next
that’s pretty obviously a criticism of trump, especially on the sanctions on Russia. Like it literally contradicts your narrative that we defend both Trump and Putin
You’re aware that under Trump, US funding for the shelling of Donbass increased and several disarmament treaties from the Cold War were openly voided by the US, leading to a massive increase in tensions between the USA and Russia? Trump was at least as much of a factor in setting the stage for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing humanitarian catastrophy as any other US president since Bush sr., and was in fact worse than most in this regard. He was in no way less hawkish than the other mass murderers you yanqui pigs elect all the time, he was just more erratic about it and pretended to personally like Putin to pander to his base that sees him as some kind of bastion of white cishet supremacy. If you buy into the right-wing lie that Trump is some kind of anti-imperialist because he smiles more when he shakes Putin’s hand in a photo op, you’re actually carrying water for the GOP, who systematically co-opts anti-imperialist sentiment and never delivers on that promise, but only offers more of the Amerikan state terrorism that so many people even in the US are becoming fed up with.
Noooo! But Trump made a mockery of the presidency! He was rude and crass! How can I, an American Liberal put my head in the sand about my country’s major issues and warmongering if our president is obnoxious?! I’m forced to face the reality of my country! Don’t you know how much pain and suffering that causes me?!
Trump was at least as much of a factor in setting the stage for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the ensuing humanitarian catastrophy as any other US president since Bush sr., and was in fact worse than most in this regard.
Um… yes, this is exactly my point. Trump helped set the stage for the invasion in all the ways you describe (leaving treaties which enabled Russia to ramp up - at least threats if not actual working nuclear weapons), calling for a NATO exit, withholding aid from Ukraine. I don’t follow your logic here, are you happy that the war started?
Edit: I think I might get it now. Trump and other US presidents are responsible for the war, but not Putin. Is that correct?
Not just the last… Say 3 presidential administrations, if not 4 somehow; but also every head of NATO in that time given the blatant violations of the Minsk Accords. Putin is turning the place into a charnel house; but it’s the response of an animal backed into a corner-- which is understandable when an existential threat intends to surround and sunder you.
But you wouldn’t know that; not yet. No one’s done that to you yet, and I eagerly await the day the world gets sick of our shit.
Why would i be happy that the USA and Russia are waging a proxy war just two countries away from me? This shit will likely go on for at least another decade if it unfolds like similar conflicts, it could destabilize an entire region next to my home country, it has massively decreased our standard of living due to inflation and there’s already arms for Ukraine showing up in the hands of nazi terrorists and criminal organizations. I do not have the Amerikan luxury of viewing this war as a cost-effective way to kill eastern Europeans, my point is that “you guys are pro Trump and pro Putin” is an entirely nonsensical talking point because these people aren’t allies and have never been.
you should program yourself an AI that will read threads for you and extract relevant information from them, you seem to be lacking reading comprehension
defend Trump and Putin
Trump and Putin are neoliberal transphobes who pretend to offer an alternative to the present system but in reality just give more of the same. This meme presents Trump as an “outsider” when in reality he is very much part of the establishment and has the same bourgeois interests as the rest of them. Many of us believe that Putin is useful as an “enemy of our enemy” but that doesn’t mean we think he’s a good person or that we should emulate Russian laws. The meme is basically saying, “A vote for Trump is a vote to undermine US foreign policy!” but a lot of people are very dissatisfied with US foreign policy so it comes across as “A vote for Bart is a vote for Anarchy!” and helps Trump to paint the false narrative that he offers an alternative.
Also come on, the hammer and sickle is just ridiculous here. Russia hasn’t been socialist in over 30 years, and again, with socialism becoming more popular with young people, it’s totally counter-productive. But mostly using it here is just dumb and cringe because it has nothing to do with anything.
Well, when your entire existence is focused on bringing down the big bad USA, of course you’d support Trump, Putin, and Ci. They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.
Russia the failed state and China the most xenophobic “economic power” in the world.
I sincerely wish you one day get the opportunity to travel the world and see something other than your backwater town in bumfuck nowhere, USA (everywhere in the USA is bumfuck nowhere USA)
It’s true, until i left the country i had no idea that you could go somewhere and feel a sense of “a stranger will give a shit if I lay bleeding on the street.”
of course you’d support Trump
Literally none of us do. This is a completely baseless and delusional accusation.
They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.
And this shows further that you have zero understanding of our positions. None of us want the US to be modelled after Russia’s system. Russia has an exploitative, capitalist system that was imposed on it by the US. It makes zero sense whatsoever to think that we’d want to model the US after it.
You’re just talking nonsense and jumping to conclusions because you’re totally unwilling to make any effort to understand where we’re coming from.
Dont give them too much, funnily even the Russian system post 91 isnt half as corrupt and destructive to its own people as the American system is.
Xenophobia is:
When you haven’t been in a war in 50 years and actively build infrastructure with other countries as a part of mutual trade deals.
Xenophobia is not:
When you have a history of starting wars and destabilising other nations, and inflict horrific cruelties on your minority population.
( ) (In case of the most obvious canned lib response)
