Occupy Dems is so pitiful. I usually don’t like thecword cuck but hey, it fits.
Democrats will believe anything as long as it’s against Orange Man
Trump tried to weaken NATO
He pushed for an increase of NATO spending to 4% GDP and also increased U.S. military presence in Europe.
Trump lifted sanctions on Russia
Also a lie: he put 16 sanctions on Russia between 2017 and 2019.
I was reading it like, what the fuck are they talking about, his entire shtick was going to Europe and saying “We need to you to spend more on NATO! It’s a bad deal folks! We aren’t getting enough! If they don’t pay up then we’ll withdraw!”
I won’t deny that he was more Russia-friendly than Biden ended up being but “absolute frothing at the mouth hatred” isn’t a hard bar to pass. Like, not wanting to start an extremely transparent proxy war with your long-time nuclear rival just seems like common sense
“Biden is making things easy for China”, “Trump tried to weaken NATO”. They always find a way to divert the focus to Russia and China even in internal disagreements.
Except Trump publicly spoke both about leaving NATO and about not responding to a NATO member under attack (the example he used was Montenegro).
Biden did neither of these things.
Trump moved Amerikan troops from Germany to Poland, that is: closer to the Russian border and deliberately broke nuclear disarmament treaties with Russia, but that’s easy to miss when you base political analysis on words instead of actions. It was entirely the point of the Trump administration to performatively signal support of Putin’s reactionary chauvinism to pander to the GOP base while pursuing the same aggressive expansionism you’d expect from any US government. When you view US politics through that movie-brained, main character focussed lens instead of looking at actual policy, the same ruse also works on Democrats, they’ll just walk away from it with a different moral judgement, which is the intended outcome. You can argue between parties over foreign policy without ever actually changing that murderous foreign policy.
Trump is doing what we have seen under Bush jr. already, only in a more aggressive tone: Jingoistically shitting on US allies to assert dominance, but leaving these alliances in place. Then after the next electoralist circus, there’s a Democrat in charge who tells the same allies that they are now valued again. European liberals can pretend that the good Amerika has won and the nightmarish clowns that have been in charge for the last 4 or 8 years are finally banished and everything’s right again and we can continue living under Amerikan hegemony without having to worry about our hegemon’s continued, steady descend into mask-off fascism.
This is how conspiracy theory logic works though. You take something that is technically true in a vacuum and then use it to “prove” something completely unrelated.
Trump did publicly speak about those things. That’s all he did though. He didn’t begin the process of withdrawing from NATO, or actively refuse a call for aid from a NATO member. He just vomited words out of his mouth, because…that’s like 90% of what he does, he just spouts whatever is on his mind, then forgets all about it a week later.
Saying “Trump said a thing.” ≠ “Trump is therefore a Putin Puppet.”
There is nothing connecting these two things. There are plenty of reasons to hate Trump without resorting to conspiracies about him. Hate him for the things he actually does, not stuff that is made up about him.
These people are insane and prevalent. It’s what happens when you watch too much MSM.
I heard from someone recently that Q-anon was created by Russia. No need to think critically about your country’s failures when you can blame Putler.
I read the subreddit for people who have lost friends and family to Qanon, and probably every 6th or 7th post will include a snarky aside about Russia or China being behind it, which nobody ever disagrees with. Its crazy, I watch them correctly identify all the patterns of conspiratorial thinking the q people in their lives obsess over, but then they’ll turn around and repeat state department propaganda without a second thought. I’m pretty sure if I tried to bring this up, i know how it would go.
