Maybe with some examples of how videos of concentration camps where often completely unrelated to china. (Saw some comment on here that one was a Prison in the Philippines for Example)

https://leohezhao.medium.com/xinjiang-facts-vs-fiction-bdc2aa403c91 found this article so far

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Thank you!

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Btw the guy who wrote that was killed in suspicious circumstances in Turkey

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this thread might have good sources

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Aaah yes I vaguely remember that thread. Thank you.

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Check out the qiao collective

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As a Muslim Comrade, this thread is getting a yikes from me. The deformed worker’s state in Beijing doesn’t deny that there is a massive ‘re-education’ programme ongoing in the region, so please tell me why Muslims are the only ones who need re-educating?

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My understanding is that the re-education is aimed at extremists to deradicalise them.

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You would be in favor of the same thing being done by France or Britain then? Who gets to decide which Muslims, and why only Muslims, need to be deradicalized?

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Nazis and christian fundamentalists should be deradicalized too. For me the devil is in the detail, not the country that does it. I have to read up on how exactly it works in China but as far as I understand it they primarily focus on people that come back form Syria after they were with ISIS.

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Yeah, some people here have an issue of swinging so far against the US that they go full China apologist. I hate to do the both sides bit, but you can’t generalize about the biggest country on the planet.

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Yeah the version of events China claims (which is almost definitely much closer to the truth than anything Zenz has even said), is actually pretty shit. It’s a paternalistic, hegemonic cultural attitude that reeks of a white man’s burden view.

Yeah it’s a better reaction than America has had to terrorism (either the constantly funding it thing or the genocidal retribution against it thing), but that’s a low bar.

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just dropping in to commend everyone for the good convo

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