Not “Has"the left” ever been wrong", but have social conservatives, ever, once, been right, in any country, about any issue, ever?

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Yes, they regularly have valid critique of neoliberalism. It’s what they want to do about it that’s the issue

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Most conservative movements today are neoliberal, or friendly to neoliberalism. I have no idea where you’re getting the idea that they’re not simpatico.

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Well two things:

1- this depends if you’re talking about a specific group of conservatives like American conservatives which are just more conservative neoliberals. If these are indeed the conservatives you are talking about, then

2- The ideology of neoliberalism itself has no frame of reference built in for self crit like dialectical materialism, therefore many accurate criticisms of neoliberalism come from hypocritical neoliberals themselves who live through and observe the issues at hand and think more of what they are doing is the solution. Ask any neolib if they want to eliminate poverty, they’ll tell you yes and they may even tell you that capitalism is the issue. The problem stems from them thinking MORE free capitalism can fix poverty. So their critique of capitalism resulting in poverty is correct, their method of addressing it is where they go wrong.

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1- this depends if you’re talking about a specific group of conservatives like American conservatives which are just more conservative neoliberals

Or literally any conservative movement anyone in the imperial core has ever dealt with in living memory.

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I watched Richard Wolff debate some libertarian on “capitalism or socialism” and the libertarian actually said “we don’t live in capitalism, we live in CRAPitalism” to thunderous applause.

So yeah I agree with your second point.

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But the question is about social conservatives.

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yeah. i somewhat admire them. they’re against drugs, booze, sexhaving, porn, gambling. all correct positions. they correctly identify “social liberalism” as a destabilizing agent that just fucks everything up and provides no replacement. their problem is they want to stay in the past & their love of religion (outdated feudal garbage imo)

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I can’t tell if this is a bit.

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downvoted by junkies, alcoholics, sexhavers, porn addicts, and degenerate gamblers smh

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Give me one example.

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Probably like a bear hunting festival or something

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Your example here is 3000 year old scripture that you’re then making up a justification for pre-emptively with no evidence that this is even the case, or that that was their motivation.

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Oh look, a song was written about the answer! this also applies to right wingers in general

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Bismarck did not “Do a healthcare”. He granted very limited health insurance that the workers had to pay for themselves.

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Bismark did a heckin smol healthcare

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Abolish English

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