the left is completely dead in both the US and europe, more and more people are getting infected by Qanon and Trumpist shit, far right parties are gaining in europe and liberals are completely incompetent at dealing with them, the world is on fucking fire…
the revolution WILL come, but it’ll come from the right :deeper-sadness:
In America, the left has grown large enough to see how little power it currently holds.
The US, maybe, but Europe? Nah. I genuinely believe that most european countries have strong potential for a revolution before 2030, and that at least one will happen. There’s a lot of reasons for this, but number 1 is europeans as a whole aren’t as propagandized as Americans.
If you said in 2011 that there would be an avowed socialist to come within a stone’s throw of winning the Democratic primary twice within the next decade or that Jeremy Corbyn would come out of nowhere to force the UK into a hung parliament, you’d be laughed at. If you said we’d put a half-dozen socialists in Congress in two years, you’d be laughed at. An Amazon factory could unionize in a month. You have people in Congress openly supporting defunding police. Democrats are at least forced to pretend to like our ideas. We’re not there yet - either at the ballot box or on the ground. But the last decade - heck, even the last 5 years - has been ten times better than any of us would have hoped for if you asked us in 2011.
maybe! and maybe it won’t come at all, until its just a few ghouls in a bunker and its less a revolution and more a stampede of the last few shattered remnants of non-ghoul humanity fleeing the acid rain and those last ghouls will die sad and broken and afraid and angry with their final pitiful lonely hoards like some incredibly shitty dragons.
but. just because you can’t win, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t play. because you lose if you do nothing, so you might as well get sanctimonious about it, yeah?
Nah, we’re stronger than ever. These things come in waves, and we have more cadres and stronger orgs than we did in 2016, and far stronger than in 2012. More and more committed progressives are abandoning the Dems and turning to Hard-Reformist and Revolutionary options.
Yes, the masses are disengaged post election. But don’t look at them, they come when the conditions are right. Look at our cadres and how far they’ve come.
As for the right, a quick look at right wing sites shows they’re in full crisis. The sheer levels of copium is incredible. Europe is less great, its true, but the Left is doing ok there even if the centre-left crumbles.
For real, the masses are shifting. The left is growing and the right is being propped up by the state/ruling class. The 1/6 riot was funded by corps and now that the tide is turning, it’s going to be harder for them to keep funneling money to rightist orgs. Meanwhile, the left is thriving on nothing but being correct in a sea of lies.
Biden will continue to prove to well meaning working class libs that there’s no hope in the democrats, Trump will siphon off huge amounts of the Republican base with his bullshit party, DSA will probably end up endorsing some third party sometime in the next few years and the illusion of electoralism will vaporize before our eyes. There’s a real opportunity to form a legitimate workers party and do electoralism the way Lenin talks about.
Even if it all comes crashing down tomorrow and there isn’t even a need for the formation of a workers party, most people would support a group like DSA over some Trump goons. Specifically because leftist orgs have been out there doing mutual aid and worker assistance for almost a year now. In my town, DSA went from completely unknown to basically everyone who works frontline knows them thanks to a mask distribution program. What does the right have? What have they done to rally the workers? What have they promised?
