This rule has held true my entire life so far, and has probably been true since the 1940s.

Although i definitely know people who are pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine and its like uhmmmm lol

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careful around these parts with that heat, comrade

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how dare you

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That’s called confirmation bias. The US has interests like any other country on Earth. Sometimes thats a good thing, other times it’s not. Blanket generalizations and simplifications like this, just show you’re not even paying attention, you’re just looking for whatever confirms your own beliefs already.

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If you are a communist, I’d say the American project is antithetical to your beliefs lol

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Sometimes thats a good thing,

Name exactly one

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Hello still waiting on this list of justified conflicts

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The US is not “just like any other country on Earth”. They are the global hegemonic empire with 700 bases worldwide that have engaged in 50+ coups and dozens of invasions, killing tens of millions of people. Not one other nation is “just like this”

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Name a time after world war 2 where the US was justified in a military action in another country.

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Considering the motives that drove us to finally join WW2, I’m not even 100% comfortable calling the US justified there.

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Still better than the goddamn frenchies and anglos, who raised and hand-fed face-eating leopards, needing to have their faces torn off to be convinced “boy these leopards are mighty mean, we should probably put them down”

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You misspelled ‘confirmation: based’.

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somebody @ me if this lib delivers

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Not necessarily. Confirmation bias involves some emotionally charged interpretation of data rather than inductive reasoning. But nothing OP said seems emotionally charged.

https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md

Yeah sure, compiling a list of US atrocities requires one to assume there are enough to compile the list and seek out details on each item. But if you take a look, the far more salient fact IMO is that it is a giant list spanning the history of the US from even before the US was officially a nation. An alien might just induce that the US is actually quite a violent institution, either in isolation, or compared to similar lists for other nations on earth

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Good post

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Although i definitely know people who are pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine and its like uhmmmm lol

I’ve seen people take this stance and it’s baffling b/c of what happened in the DPR/LPR in the last 10 years.

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but that was just a RUSSIAN PSYOP so it’s not real and therefore libs can ignore it in their tiny minds

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Bit idea: Start claiming that Islamic extremism in Palestine is just Israeli propaganda. Then start claiming “so what. Every country has religious extremists”.

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Its not Isreali propganda, but if I’m remembering right the US and Isreal did covertly support Hamas to supplant the PLO

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They’re Russian separatists so it’s ok to bomb them for a decade

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Donbass is literally being genocided by the Ukrainians, and has been for the last decade.

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reply to the wrong person?

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Of course the CIA can fuck you over even there by funding both sides so if the Socialists win they can tear them apart from the inside.

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If America has been in a single war where it was force for good I would be shocked.

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The obvious answer you’ll get is WWII but I’m skeptical. US interests supported Hitler and Mussolini. Before, during, and after the war. It’s enlisted troops might have been a force for good. But on the whole, the question of the benevolence of US involvement is—well, I’m unconvinced.

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US involved themselves once it became clear the Soviets would win. Why? Because opening a second front enabled them to occupy half of europe and sit around the table in Berlin that determines what happens after the war.

It functions as a deterrent to the Soviets. It is the reason the Soviets stopped at Berlin. Had there been no second front? The Soviets would have occupied it all. All of Europe would be red.

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the germans declared war on the US when they thought they were about to beat the soviets? who keeps promulgating this backwards narrative?

how do you explain US aid and cooperation with the Soviets if their real goal was simply undermining them? why did the soviets stress the need for a second front? all of europe would be red, if there was no question of Soviet victory. why give the neofascists a beachhead? why browbeat them about hot long its taking them to make a beachhead?

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If you were a high ranking SS member you would be real happy for US involvement but I am not sure I trust their opinion.

All the genocide we did with the money we got from selling arms to Europe also is a mark against.

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