This rule has held true my entire life so far, and has probably been true since the 1940s.

Although i definitely know people who are pro-Palestine and pro-Ukraine and its like uhmmmm lol

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“If I’m the Imam of Mecca, and American imperialism is fighting the devil, I’m on the side of the devil.”

-Kwame Ture (going hard!)

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true for literally every American war in history except WW2, which was an exception only because they were forced to be allied with a proletarian state by circumstance. A total one-off exception that proves the rule

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Of course the CIA can fuck you over even there by funding both sides so if the Socialists win they can tear them apart from the inside.

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Why the fuck are my tax dollars supporting this? Israel just gets to have a war whenever they want and they don’t have to ask “how will we pay for it?”.

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there’s always more money for war

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If America has been in a single war where it was force for good I would be shocked.

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The obvious answer you’ll get is WWII but I’m skeptical. US interests supported Hitler and Mussolini. Before, during, and after the war. It’s enlisted troops might have been a force for good. But on the whole, the question of the benevolence of US involvement is—well, I’m unconvinced.

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If you were a high ranking SS member you would be real happy for US involvement but I am not sure I trust their opinion.

All the genocide we did with the money we got from selling arms to Europe also is a mark against.

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US involved themselves once it became clear the Soviets would win. Why? Because opening a second front enabled them to occupy half of europe and sit around the table in Berlin that determines what happens after the war.

It functions as a deterrent to the Soviets. It is the reason the Soviets stopped at Berlin. Had there been no second front? The Soviets would have occupied it all. All of Europe would be red.

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the germans declared war on the US when they thought they were about to beat the soviets? who keeps promulgating this backwards narrative?

how do you explain US aid and cooperation with the Soviets if their real goal was simply undermining them? why did the soviets stress the need for a second front? all of europe would be red, if there was no question of Soviet victory. why give the neofascists a beachhead? why browbeat them about hot long its taking them to make a beachhead?

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