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I predicted this and it is only the beginning.

If you pull leftists out of a website what you are left with are centrists and the far right. The space becomes more toxic because you’ve pulled out the leftwing opposition to the far right.

As people generally want to occupy pleasant spaces, the outcome of doing this is that you’ve made the space less pleasant for everyone that isn’t far right. Over time, this causes more and more people to abandon the space because it is insufferable for them. They go look for some other space that they actually enjoy. This makes the space even more toxic as it removes more and more people on the left-most side to the far right. The remaining people either assimilate to the behaviour of the space or leave it.

A steady rightwards march will continue to occur on reddit. It is in decline.

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I honestly think that chapo was a big influence on reddit, sad to see it go

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It slightly radicalized permanently online libs, it was a net positive on that whole hell site

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It sounds kinda pretentious but I feel like the Chapo sub was on the cutting edge of meme culture. For example, it was the first place I really saw boomer memes and ‘woke’ memes. Things that would become part of the discourse in my country about a year later.

Not to say that these memes originated in the sub. But from my limited perspective chapo was very ‘with it’.

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It was a crossover space between Reddit and Twitter so you saw the best of both memes there

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Also,

  • E. Once you clear your brain of libshit, everything looks more right-wing because you’re seeing it clearly for the first time.
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Hey, I got 40 upvotes on the cyberpunk subreddit for saying unionize and arm sex workers. So it’s not all bad.

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Yep r/unpopularopinion and r/actualpublicfreakout are getting to the front page with heavily upvoted fash talking points

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Unpopularopinion has always frequently reached the front page though.

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that sub is filled with trash

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I’m so disappointed in actualpublicfreakouts. I subbed because the main sub was filled with non freakouts. It’s now full fash

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my state is filled to the brim with libs but you’d think it was the deep south if you went into the subreddit

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I really think it has to do with the right’s obsession with “the culture wars” and the insane sums of money they are willing to spend on astrotuf, at least, maybe.

I have mentioned this often, but I watched an interview with Chris Hedges in which he recounts getting invited to visit a right-wing think tank, and he describes walking into a room full of cubicles packed with ‘workers’ editing wikipedia articles.

If they are willing to spend that much trying to revise history, there is no way they aren’t trying to create the illusion of a conservative state of mind across all social media platforms, where they perceive the forefront of the culture war to be (a battle that every non-failson knows they cannot win organically)

It’s like the Soros Bux meme, except it’s actually real, and the money comes from Koch, Mercer, DeVos fortunes etc.

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I see where you are coming from, and yeah the natural progression of capitalism would certainly tend to lead to outsourcing or automation. I do not know what era Chris was discussing, but I trust him enough to not lie about something like this. It is possible to identify a lot of Turf on Twitter because the account name is literally part of a word or name, usually incomplete, followed by eight random digits. The number of digits never really seems to even change. I would suspect that yes, that is automation (or at least botting to create sock accounts).

NDAs also exist. I mean, video game publishers subject people to this sort of document just for access to early releases for independent review (they aren’t even monetarily compensated). I do not think we would need to assume that these far-right ‘institutions’ compensate workers well, but rather it’s more like they enforce their will through fear (revocation of access, etc), power, and their litigious reputations.

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I seriously doubt they are paying Americans a GOOD wage(It has to be good, or else they would be leaking info) to do this.

Don’t underestimate the return on investment for doing this, It keeps the population asleep, it spreads Americas neoliberal capitalist ideology around the world.

Can’t remember the name of it, but there’s a wikipedia “editor” account who apparently never sleeps, and spends every waking moment of his life editing articles about journalists, relating to american wars, foreign policy, coups etc etc.

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all state/local subs are pure trash. golden rule of reddit.

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It seems like the lib city subs I used to browse reallllly took a turn after the election. It was pretty obvious outsiders (from T_D or otherwise) who wanted to stir things up about the protests that happened. They were never the same after that.

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