HadMatter [none/use name]

I mean… it’s been 6 years. Very possible that she was fairly reasonable and he was apolitical 6 years ago, and they both moved in opposite directions from there.

I agree on /r/Libertarian. The mods are mostly chuds, but there are a lot of debate nerds on there who have just legitimately never heard leftist ideas explained and think the left’s entire philosophy is just taking guns or SJW’s, rather than workers issues.

Yea… this person has never owned a cat.

Love my government-sanctioned anarchy!

Barely anyone actually owns their business outright, first of all. Second, why would anyone work for a business if they have to pay the owner to work there? Because they need to be able to eat and want to be able to buy shit they want. People produce because we want and need the outputs of production. People create companies because some (most) things are better made with multiple people rather than one guy by himself. There is no difference between the workers choosing to start a business and sharing in the collective outputs of their labor and a owner buying a a business and finding people desperate enough to exploit themselves for survival, except in the first arrangement, there doesn’t have to be the threat of destitution baked into the functioning of the economy. People want the outputs of labor, so they’ll do labor to get them. Pretty simple.

Edit: In person, the real response is “So you think that Worker-owned businesses like Bob’s Red Mill, New Belgium Brewing (before they sold), Mondragon*, or any of the 400+ co-ops on this list: https://www.usworker.coop/directory/ don’t exist?”

There were legitimately socialist/anarchist/egalitarian sentiments in Europe at the time, but certainly calling the capitalists right wing at the tome of the Boston Tea Party is a bit nonsensical.

You can have a cat and not let it destroy local ecosystems for funsies.

I fucking can’t with this people anymore.

For the most part, if you’re eating meat in 2020, you’re eating more vegetables indirectly through the animals you’re eating, so whatever slave labor is used to grow the vegetables that the animals eat is still more than whatever slave labor is used to grow the vegetables a vegan eats.

They literally shut everything down and told everyone to stay inside except for a few people who were tested regularly who brought food to everyone else. The shut down lasted less than a month, and they were back to normal. They also were very strict about letting people in afterwards. If the whole planet did the same thing they did, the virus would have been dealt with by the end of March.