i know its painful to admit but the vaccines just don’t work very well. they were rushed out by project warp speed, a combo pentagon/big pharma operation. they slightly reduce the severity of a case but do not stop transmission. their effectivness falls off drastically after a few months. natural immunity is by all accounts much more robust and life long. if you are high risk you can take the vaccine. if you just want to be careful you can take the vaccine. if you are in good health, with no pre existing conditions it should not be compulsory because the jab will not stop transmission.
well excuse me for wanting to debate with some good chapo leftists. i come in good faith. i may have different opinions, but i’m talking openly and honestly here.
some good chapo leftists
Little tip for next time, absolutely no one still on this site calls themselves a “chapo” or a “chapo leftist”. Lurk more before showing your entire ass again.
Vaccines are not 100% effective, but you’re overstating the strength of natural immunity. We have no way of knowing that it’s “life long”, only that it seems to be longer lasting than vaccine immunity. Vaccines don’t completely stop transmission, and neither does previous infection. Unvaccinated people that have recovered are still contributing to spreading the virus, and they could reduce that by getting the vaccine.
Just survivorship bias showing its ass once again.
All the folks who are crippled or killed by the virus just kinda drop out of the denominator for anti-vaxxers. COVID is soft-eugenics for these assholes and if you don’t make it then you don’t count.
And its painfully cliche to say at this point, but things are only going to get worse. I don’t envy anyone working the night shift at the COVID wards in a few months, least of all in a state like Texas or Florida.
We have a lot of evidence now that shows that the vaccines are effective at reducing the spread. They’ve been shown to reduce the risk of infection, accelerate viral clearance, reduce transmission, and have high efficacy against severe infection, hospitalization, and death. A thread on some of the weaknesses of natural immunity. Also, contrary to what many libertarians would have us believe, even most Americans do actually support vaccine mandates.
