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this was 5 years later. Ukraine wouldnt need an alliance if they didnt consistently violate the Minsk agreements by bombing civilians in the DPR and LPR, giving Russia a reasonable casus belli

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Time isn’t linear silly

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bombing civilians in the DPR and LPR

Proof?

giving Russia a reasonable casus belli

Putin didn’t even recognize DPR and LPR until the day before he invaded Ukraine. This is some concentrated revisionist history.

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here is the info abt civilian bombing and here are some other war crimes.

recognizing the DPR and LPR would seriously escalate tensions between Russia and Ukraine/NATO. Russia did, however, maintain informal relations with them, including providing aid. DPR and LPR invited Russia to liberate them from Ukraine. you have no idea what revisionist means if you think thats what im doing here. Russia absolutely had a justified casus belli

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recognizing the DPR and LPR would seriously escalate tensions between Russia and Ukraine/NATO

That’s why he did it the day before invading. Putin was hoping his separatists in DPR and LPR could weaken Ukraine without getting his hands dirty. When he saw that wasn’t working, he got involved.

DPR and LPR invited Russia to liberate them from Ukraine.

Yes, that’s kinda what pro-Russian separatists are supposed to do. Next you’ll tell me CPC members in Taiwan want one country, two systems.

Russia absolutely had a justified casus belli

Sorry I’m still not seeing it

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Minor detail, but I think it was 6 days before the invasion.

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split the difference, three days? He officially recognized LPR and DPR on 21 Feb and invaded Ukraine on 24 Feb

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