Oh, it’s never going to happen?

Damn, that sucks.

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I had a pronounced phase in my political development where I only cared about domestic issues - I was always confused by the comrades engaging with me about the primacy of anti-imperialism. It seems obvious now, not sure what really pushed me over the edge. Probably just beginning to pay attention and learning the history of US foreign policy and how inexcusable it is.

Also, learning the class character of NATO helped.

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Imperialist leftists should be dunked on without mercy and should have their bonafides questioned relentlessly.

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Because most of the loudest US “leftists” are social democrats who want free healthcare and a living wage but uphold imperialism no questions asked.

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Leftists caring about foreign policy is purely a spectator sport. Like a guy from Cincinnati caring about LeBron James. Care all you want. You have no power here.

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This is incorrect. The level at which you’re trying to approach foreign policy is wrong. The way you take on the State Department, Pentagon, etc. is by making them unable to wage their imperial campaigns.

In the US you could be distributing information to discouragement military enlistment. Even for “apolitical” people, learning about all the lies and manipulation recruiters engage in can be insightful.

You could also be helping and encouraging those currently in the military gain conscientious objector status: https://centeronconscience.org/guide-for-co-military/

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In the US you could be distributing information to discouragement military enlistment.

The US hasn’t hit an enlistment target since 2016, and that was after drastically cutting their standards over the previous decade.

You could also be helping and encouraging those currently in the military gain conscientious objector status

The bare handful of people I know who are still in the national guard are some of the most red-pilled chuds I still associate with.

And while I’ll never have a kind word to say about enlisting, much less going for officer training, there’s really not much I can tell to my friend who joined the marines (to spent most of his career guarding embassies) entirely to get the education, housing, and health care benefits. He’s better off, economically, than a number of my other friends who just got chewed up and spit out by the service sector.

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Discouraging enlistment and helping enlisted soldiers get kicked out seems like it would be pretty useful and important work, but is ignored more often than not for some reason.

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It’s not easy to discourage enlistment unless you’re actually in high school. Even teachers are probably looking at discipline or termination if they try it. Can’t imagine a lot of high schools in the US are gonna let my late 30s ass onto campus and start talking to students about why the military is evil.

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Modern imperial states have now completely finished even pretending opinion shapes political policies; when the Iraq war 2 was ramping up in Britain, the country was rocked by the largest ever protest movement against sending British troops. The protests were violently crushed, media opposition was ignored or sidelined, and politics coalesced around nu-Labour authoritarianism, surveillance statism, and interventionism. They don’t need to pretend to care anymore, they can just kill and arrest anyone who dissents, and they know they can get away with it because the other politicians are worse, and because there is no experience in creation of a political dual-power alternative.

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Modern imperial states have now completely finished even pretending opinion shapes political policies

https://amp.ft.com/content/1e030bbb-a074-4fbd-94c5-94fe579a9a8a

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