If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
Previous megathreads
!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml
Just posted on the other thread about how Twitter is responding to the fall of Mariupol:
In response to citizens now actually being able to leave, Ukrainian propaganda Twitter (and all the libs retweeting mindlessly) are falsely claiming that anywhere between 5k-25k Mariupol citizens have actually been forced onto buses at gunpoint and will be taken to “camps” before being forced to relocate to Russia. Usually with unrelated pictures of train cars to really hammer the sick insinuation home.
In response to there being lots of video and pictures of Russia bring in and handing out humanitarian aid to people in the city now they control it, the pro-Ukraine people are actively denying it and claiming that Russia is bombing all incoming humanitarian aid. I’m seeing the endlessly repeated line of “children drinking water out of radiators to not die of thirst” in a very unnatural way.
Just total denial / inversion of reality stuff.
Wait did mariupol finally fall? I’m not seeing recent headlines but this would be great news. Azov can stop butchering people who try and leave
They hoisted the Russian flag up on the admin building, just clean up the rest at this point
Not sure they claim every street, but yeah basically. Seems like Russia / DPR now control the vast majority, lots of footage of dead Azov nazis in the tower blocks they’d apparently retreated back to and been firing from for the last 24hrs or so. Chechen forces apparently mopping up odd Azov members trying to escape or cut off on the other side of the industrial area on the other edge of the city. Russian / DPR forces have also been raising flags over government buildings apparently.
Convoys of cars finally able to leave Mariupol. So glad people are finally able to get out.
This sounds like a stock accusation, like I definitely heard “kidnapped into camps on the mainland” thing with the HK protests.
For those accusations, they mostly seem to have started from nationalist writers at the Kyiv Independent and spread from there.
In general I’m just trying to aggregate what seems likely from multiple sources, all the usual Western sources, pro-Ukrainian Twitter (which is most of it at this point), and varying degrees of pro-Russian accounts mostly on Telegram like InterSlava, MangoPress, Russians With Attitude podcast and some accounts that nuked by Twitter.
I try to take it all with a pinch of salt and I find the rah-rah nationalism on both sides a bit gross, but it’s the best we’re gonna get in knowing what’s actually going amidst the fog of war.
Mariupol has a Russian majority population and is part of the DPR. It makes sense that citizens who wants to leave the city for somewhere safer choose to go east instead of West where they’re likely to be lynched by banderites for being too Russian.
Exactly. Even if I didn’t have any Russian connection I wouldn’t want to stay in a captured city that potentially might suffer a counter attack by Nazi zealots where a good chunk of it is rubble anyway. I’d head away from the front lines and at this point that means going deeper into Russian held territory rather than trying to outrun the front to the West.
obviously the west is pushing propaganda hard, but why would Russia give humanitarian aid? They’re another country motivated by profit, I’m confused
For the reasons Riley said below and because despite it being the home of Azov, Mariupol has lots of Russian speaking and ethnic Russian people. Lots of people have family and friends in Russia or the other parts of the East that Russia is trying to unite/give independence. Regardless of any other objectives (toppling the Zelensky gov, demilitarisation of Ukraine etc) if they don’t achieve that they know people in those regions and at home will see it as a failure.
Germany decided to turn off the gas rather than paying for it in rubles. Too bad, I liked living in a continent with a somewhat functioning economy.
I don’t see any outlets reporting they’ve made the move yet? just worries from buyers they might, causing a spike in prices
Their Chancellor just said that he doesn’t want plunge EU to a recession, then did that. Lol
Hi my name is Johnny Knöcksvile and this is “hit my own economy in the dick with a hammer”
Very fucking scary how hard the west is driving the narrative that Russia is preparing to use chemical weapons and NATO will intervene if they do.
“If they were to use chemical weapons, that would definitely effect my cal- you know the thing. They’d be crossing a red line.”
Listen, jack! I went up to Mr. Putin and I said, “If you use bio… biolog… you know the thing. If you use those weapons, then, I said, he’ll be up shit creek with no paddle!” I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to swear, ah, dang, I… well, the point I’m trying to make is that Putin might wanna use 'em! So watch out. I remember, back in the 60s, my dad - god could he drive, I mean, man, he was… the uh… the 60s, as I said, back then, we had the Vietnam War on, and well, we had a mighty amount of trouble with those fellas over there, and we don’t want that to happen, uh, again, because that would be a bad thing to happen. Had biological agents used in that one, I think… well, that’s not important. Ukraine is important, and we all know that, and, and we need to make sure they stay safe.
my dad was saying this, going “well if Putin wants to denazify places, how about he goes after America huh?”. the correct response is to say “yes, I think they should die too”
isnt that the goldman sachs guy?
wall street ghouls defending hitler :shocked-pikachu:
“Germans gave chocolate to children”
Damn, they also took part in one of the largest,and most industrialised, genocides on the planet but the chocolate thing kinda nice I guess.
Some people on twitter are saying Azov is more or less destroyed.
:crab-party: if true
I can’t celebrate knowing they most likely surrounded themselves with civilians to the end.
At the very least, my major worry was that Ukraine would turn into Afghanistan and that this insurgency would cripple the country until capitalism collapses
And
- it seems like every elected official is trying to get it to collapse
- The opinion on the military for the average Ukrainian citizen seems to be fucking dogshit at this point seeing as they’ve probably killed more people trying to flee than Russians.
