hahaha no one pays for training anymore.

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My favorite thing about my job is showing the CEO just how much turnover and the lack of a coherent on boarding process costs our company, and that those costs are 10x more than just paying people a wage that’s in the middle, as opposed to the bottom 10th percentile.

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My previous employer sent me for external training once in ten years and it was basically just to keep me leaving for a bit longer. It cost them under $1000.

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I should have been more clear. I meant they don’t tend to want to train new employees. They hire people who already know the job so they can save money and “eliminate risk” They’ll train employees that have been there for a while already “proven themselves” sometimes.

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Lol I love that pane 3 just skips over all the important bits. “Yeah so I’m just in possession of capital as an a priori part of my existence which you don’t have, please don’t focus on why that is the case, maybe I got all that money from making pie charts really good, who knows.”

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And yet, despite all the backround capital and investment and research, without that one key element his dream will only and forever remain a dream. It couldn’t possibly the most valuable part of the production process as a result; it couldn’t be!

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without that one key element his dream will only and forever remain a dream

The investment capital and research are essential elements, too. The takeaway isn’t that Mustache Asshole Guy deserves nothing. The takeaway is that he should get paid in accordance with whatever actual work he did developing the marketing plan, whoever built the machinery should get paid in accordance with the actual work that went into that, and the laborer on the line working the machine should get paid in accordance with the work he’s doing. What shouldn’t happen is Mustache Asshole Guy getting to take other laborers’ hard-earned money just because (somehow, magically, without any explanation) he was sitting on a boatload of capital to begin with.

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Realistically what actually happens is all 4 panels is a boss explaining what others workers came up with.

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Most of the panels skip over very important questions. Mr. Moneybags has some kind of vision, which implicitly seems to mean he has a right to privately own an industrial process. He analyzed the market, which just so happened to tell him exactly what he wanted to hear. Then it turns out none of that actually mattered because he needs the laborer to actually manifest the tea cups into reality.

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maybe I got all that money from making pie charts really good

Data scientists irl

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  1. Your vision cannot possibly exist without workers and public infrastructure. Unless you can somehow produce and teleport teacups to everyone in the world by yourself.

  2. Where did you get the money to make the investment? Who made the cup making machine? Who is doing the training? Why wouldn’t someone be paid a salary or for training?

  3. The employee will be doing the labor, not sure what the point is. Why not just operate the machine yourself? The employee’s labor will more than cover whatever administrative costs you’ll have. Remember, you did market research and you know everyone will buy these cups. If not, then you’re not entitled to make gains on your investment. And it’s not the employee’s fault you made a bad investment. Investments carry risk, as you pointed out. So if your market research pays off, you will make enough money to cover the employee’s salary, raw materials, and equipment, rent, power, insurance, etc, and even pay yourself a salary for doing managerial work. The question is how much of a salary do you get for sitting in a chair and using Quicken. Why do you get to take the surplus labor of the employee when your production is based entirely on them?

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Yeah, if you are actually doing something, than yes, you can get paid for it. CEOs, in theory, are doing a job in the way that a captain of a ship is doing a job (organizing, directing, steering, etc). In practice, however, CEOs just hire a team of people to do all the work of running a company and just collect a paycheck. See also: landlords

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Also that’s just a job in the mode of production like any other one and should be compensated as such. No idiot deserves 20000x the average laborer because they planned shit, get the fuck out of here.

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the company I work for would be better off without our idiot CEO/owner. If we unionized, fired him and hired some kid with an MBA instead not only could we split their 20000x paycheck between the people actually doing work, but also the company would be better ran smh i hate it

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No they “make decisions”

Weird how a job that is just about your decision making ability requires you to be paid immense sums of money in advance and have a golden parachute.

vs say performance bonuses for making decisions which improve key metrics (which I’m pretty much fine with if those metrics include worker set goals).

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