138 points

Unneccessary to bring her transness into this critique

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Valid criticism. 👆 Especially since we had trouble with transphobia lately.

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lmao shut up im trans dipshit

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Besides (often trans) ‘woke’ people criticizing trans people for things mostly unrelated to being trans the only other person you see bringing up gender-affirming plastic surgery like this is Nick Mullen.

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20 points

I think kristina is trying to invoke the idea of “fuck you, I got mine”.

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I understand it, its something people say a lot about transwomen on the internet, and I’m not saying its not a worthwhile thing to ever talk about, but it is a strange and uncomfortable thing to shoehorn into this critique which has nothing to do with how feminine contra is now or with transness at all

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The way I see it it’s basically the same as talking about “rich white gays” like Buttigieg. Contrasting the fact that they belong to a traditionally oppressed minority with the fact that they themselves aren’t oppressed and therefore become traitors to their peers and further right than the average member of that minority.

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16 points

Well you said the words ‘material conditions’ and ‘intersectionality’ and called all of your detractors cis so I guess you must be right and my immediate visceral reaction to your title is invalid. You have debated me into a corner, facts truely do not care about my feelings

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19 points

lmao, totally mischaracterizing what i said. libshit

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No, see, because she makes a YouTube which is popular to finance surgery. And that’s… uh… bad?

IDK. I guess people are still upset because Natalie used the V-word in her last video.

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It’s just another edition of “We Live In A Society”.

People with the highest profiles enjoy the highest incomes. So we need to do what exactly? Discourage people from earning money via social media? Impose mandatory waiting periods on trans-surgery, so everyone can suffer equally? Arbitrarily shame people for doing the thing that everyone else in the community is trying to achieve?

All because a Transwoman is dunking on the d-tier punditry of a prior decade on Twitter?

Wtf?

This is the same toxic reactionary attitude I see in the red-pilled corners of Reddit. It’s Michelle Malkin levels of discourse. Just finding any fucking thing to villainize. Why not creep outside Natalie’s window and complain about her countertops while you’re at it?

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Vanguard?

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3 points

:lenin-shining:

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6 points

Hard agree.

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83 points

I’ve come to really dislike breadtube. It started as something to cheer on just as an opposition to chud youtube and all the dweeby “skeptics” on there, but It’s become another “media consumption as politics” trap rife with libshit masquerading as leftism. Hbomberguy is basically the only one from there that I still watch (Shaun is also good but not as rewatchable because he does heavy shit, fair enough), and I really hope he actually makes more videos since he has people to help him plan and schedule his shit out now.

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66 points

It’s time to move on to adult food like Hakim and Luna Oi

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32 points

It’s like like realizing you like the taste of dark chocolate now, you just gotta grow sport

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Yessss. Them, black red guard, Yugopnik, Tankie Talk, Viki 1999, Kathrin, Space babies, paul cockshott, finbol, bayarea415, socialist swann, and Paul Morrin/basically anyone hes had on his channel. There is a thriving new redtube (lol) i have only gotten aquiainted with in the past few months, after spending forever sifting through the breadtube shlock.

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This is well there’s your problem erasure.

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I mean, it’s a show where they spend 2 hours reading a Wikipedia article and making dumb jokes and when the article ends they are just “well, that’s that” and the episode just ends without them going to any real detail.

I really like subject matter and the hosts and their unique perspectives but lately their episodes have become increasingly phoned in and devoid of any real substance.

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My bad, they’re technically a podcast so I guess I wrote them off

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4 points

Of all the podcasts about engineering disasters with slides that I listen to, WTYP is one of them.

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4 points

i really like luna she’s awesome.

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9 points

I don’t think PhilosophyTube ever went full lib

But he did stop taking off his shirt in his videos

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7 points

Some More News is still good.

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I do too, just don’t follow him on Twitter. Same with Lindsay Ellis.

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79 points

Its not apologetics for war crimes. It’s just “but her emails” with a different coat of paint. It’s petulant lib brained shit.

I’ll give her six months before she goes the way of the sexual mutual aid lady and formally “leaves the left.”

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Wtf is sexual mutual aid lady

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22 points

Google Merrick Deville if you’re curious, but she’s just one of the “communist gun girls” who’s said a bunch of dumb shit over the course of her twitter career and ended up taking her toys and going home when twitter leftists were rude to her.

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IIRC it was twitter beef from a few months ago where the discourse was about whether or not sex work would exist under communism, with some people saying it wouldn’t exist without the monetary needs and other(s) saying it would exist as “mutual sexual aid”.

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Great example of how bickering over some theoretical point shouldn’t get to a place where it hurts our progress towards making that theoretical argument relevant.

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Yeah I am not looking that up. I demand a sentence explanation of “sexual mutual aid lady.” lmao

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56 points

when i used to watch her it was like that idk what her deal is now. she pissed me off with something she said after her surgeries that was incredibly disparaging towards poor trans people but idr the specifics

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I swear she goes out of her way to say some cringe thing every video, it feels almost like a shitty guerrilla marketing tactic.

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I think she’s just a drama queen and has this drive to be controversial and edgy.

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Contrapoints has said what she has to say, and she did it 2-3 years ago. Now she continues to speak because it’s her job, but it’s increasingly cliched and vapid. She needs a new challenge and is unwilling to create challenging circumstances. Her art is dead, her voice deathless. Change or make space for new voices.

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